Saturday, January 27, 2024

Jeremiah Poore, David Poore & Jesse Poore (Census Records, Land Dispute & Probate)


We have already proven the direct Y-DNA (Male line) connection from Jesse Poore’s line to Jeremiah Poer’s line. You can see that in depth research at PooreFamilyHistory.com


The information below is circumstantial but documented to show the possible direct connections.

  • Jeremiah Poer, Poor, Poore (1754-1850)
  • David Poore, Poor, Power (?-?)
  • Jesse Poore, Poor, Power (1770-1860)

Brief overview: 


In 1790 Jeremiah Poore, David Poore, Robert Hester (Jeremiah’s Father in-law) and William Moreland lived in Guilford County, North Carolina.

By 1800 David Poore, Robert Hester (Jeremiah’s Father in-law) and William Moreland lived in Stokes County, North Carolina.

In 1803, Robert Hester dies and leaves some items to David Poor, Jesse Poor, Joseph Moreland, Samuel Kerby and others.

In 1805 Jesse Poore was listed as a bordering property owner in a land dispute in Surry County between Samuel Kerby (Listed in Robert Hester's Probate) and William Moreland (Probably the father of Joseph Moreland listed in Robert Hester's Probate). John Hicks is also listed among the bordering property owners in the 1805 and is also listed in the Probate for Robert Hester.

I’m not sure who David is at this point yet but he has a connection to Jeremiah Poore who Jesse Poore’s line has a very strong Y-DNA connection to.



Robert Hester is the father of Elizabeth Hester. She married Jeremiah Poer in 1790 in Guilford County, North Carolina.

Information about Robert Hester:


CENSUS RECORDS:


1784 State Census of North Carolina (Granville County, NC)


Robert Hester is in Granville County, NC (East of Stokes)


1790 Census - Guilford County, North Carolina


Robert Hester is in Guilford County, NC

Name Robert Hester
Home in 1790 (City, County, State) Guilford, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over 3
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16 4
Free White Persons - Females 2
Number of Household Members 9



Jeremiah Poore is in Guilford County, North Carolina

Name Jeremiah Poore
Home in 1790 (City, County, State) Guilford, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over 1
Free White Persons - Females 1
Number of Household Members 2



David Poore is in Guilford County, North Carolina

Name David Poore
Home in 1790 (City, County, State) Guilford, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over 1
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16 1
Free White Persons - Females 1
Number of Household Members 3



OF NOTE: Jeremiah Poore and David Poore are only 4 listings from one another on separate pages. This more than likely means there is a strong chance they are related. Brothers, Father Son?



William Moreland is in Guilford County, North Carolina
(This connection will be explained below)

Name William Moreland
Home in 1790 (City, County, State) Guilford, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over 2
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16 5
Free White Persons - Females 5
Number of Slaves 14
Number of Household Members




1794 Quaker Meeting Record (New Garden Monthly Meeting)


Birth of Francis Hester to Robert and Elisabeth.

New Garden Monthly Meeting established in 1754. They brought the name with them from the New Garden Meeting in Chester County, Pennsylvania.

Map of the approximate location of the meeting house in North Carolina.



1800 Stokes County, North Carolina:


David Poor is in Stokes County, North Carolina

Name David Poor
Home in 1800 (City, County, State) Salisbury, Stokes, North Carolina

Males:
under 10 years of age 1
of 10 years, but under 16 years 1
of 16 years, but under 26 years -
of 26 years, but under 45 years 1
45 years and upward -

Females
under 10 years of age 1
of 10 years, but under 16 years 1
of 16 years, but under 26 years -
of 26 years, but under 45 years  1
45 years and upward -




QUESTION: Is this the same David Poore that was listed in the 1790 census near Jeremiah Poore in Guilford County, NC?


Robert Hester is in Stokes County, North Carolina

Name Robert Hester
Home in 1800 (City, County, State) Salisbury, Stokes, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25 3
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44 1
Number of Household Members Under 16 2
Number of Household Members Over 25 2
Number of Household Members 7



OF NOTE: Robert Hester is listed one page after David Poor in the 1800 census in Stokes County. The must have lived close to one another.



William Moreland is in Stokes County, North Carolina
(This connection will be explained below)

Name William Moreland
Home in 1800 (City, County, State) Salisbury, Surry, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25 3
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15 3
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over 1
Number of Slaves 10
Number of Household Members Under 16 4
Number of Household Members Over 25 2
Number of Household Members 19




1802 Will for Robert Hester


Robert Hester
Stokes County, NC

Lists his daughter Elizabeth (Who married Jeremiah Poer in 1790)



1803 Probate for Robert Hester


Robert Hester
Stokes County, NC


Among the names listed in the probate

David Poor (Was given Heifer)
David Power (Was given Parcel of Wheat straw, table & stove?)

Jesse Poor (Was given sack of Tops?)
Jesse Power (Was given cutting box and knife)

Pricilla Power (Spoon, Flax wheat, Bread) 

Also, among the listed: Samuel Kerby, Joseph Moreland, John Hicks



QUESTION: Is David Poor/Power the same person from Guilford County, NC listed near Jeremiah Poer? Robert Hester is Jeremiah Poer’s father-in-law, but I didn’t see his name listed in the probate.




1805 Land Dispute Connection 


In 1805 Jesse Poore was listed as a bordering property owner in a land dispute in Surry County, North Carolina between Samuel Kerby and William Moreland. John Hicks is also listed among the bordering property owners in the 1805 and is also listed in the Probate for Robert Hester.




Samuel Kerby (Listed in Robert Hester's Probate)

William Moreland is more than likely the father of Joseph Moreland (Listed in Robert Hester’s probate)

1800 census: Joseph Moreland & William Moreland are listed.


John Hicks

1830 Stokes County, NC Census

John W. Hicks is two names below David Powers. Is this the same John Hicks from the 1805 land dispute that Jesse Poore is mentioned in? Same David mentioned in Robert Hester’s probate and the 1790 census for Guilford County?



OF NOTE: Jesse Poore's daughter Elizabeth Jean Poore married Robert Hicks in Claiborne County, Tennessee. Possibly related to John Hicks.



Monday, December 11, 2023

UPDATE 2: Jesse Poore 1770-1860, Connecting to the Jeremiah Poer 1754-1850 Line (Big Y-DNA Results)



UPDATE 2

Y-DNA backed data showing the connection to the
Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850) 
family line in North Carolina.


BY DR. ROSS POORE & RYAN POORE 

Latest update: 6/20/2023
Feel free to share this information but please credit the authors.


DOWNLOAD PDF (Free)


INTRODUCTION:


Jesse Poore

B:1770 Sullivan, North Carolina / Tennessee

D:1860 Tazewell, Claiborne, Tennessee

 

More information about Jesse Poore’s family can be found here: http://www.PooreFamilyHistory.com

 

Additional Update & Previous Report:

 

This is the second update to the information that we previously released about the possibilities of who Jesse Poore’s parents were. The information in that report, including early DNA results are still valid. It also includes other circumstantial evidence that is very interesting in this research.

 

This report includes some of the previous information but also includes more detailed Big Y-DNA results.

 

You can find the 1st report here:

https://poorefamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2023/12/update-1-parents-of-jesse-poore-1770.html




HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW:


There have been multiple family trees that have listed Jesse Poore 1770-1860 as the son of Joseph Poore 1737-1795 and Margaret Boynton Bailey 1738-1818 of Essex, Massachusetts. While they did have a son named Jesse born around the same time, this isn’t the same Jesse that was born in North Carolina and died in Tennessee. We haven’t found any evidence to back up this claim.

 

We have had a few low-level DNA matches that tie into the Poore line from Massachusetts. He is distantly related but our DNA testing with Jesse Poore’s direct descendants show much stronger ties to another family that was in much closer proximity.

 

One more thing to keep in mind when looking at this information, the surname names Poore, Poor, Poer, Poher, Powers, Power and other variations are related and often interchangeable. The different accents and education levels of those recording the names on documents led to various spellings through the centuries.

 

 

Based on DNA evidence (Autosomal & Y-DNA) of the sources listed below, we believe two options are possible:

 

Option 1:

Jeremiah Poer 1754-1850 is the father of Jesse Poore 1770-1860.

 

Option 2:

James Poer 1755-1811 (Jeremiah’s brother), Edward Poer 1735-1834 (Father of Jeremiah, James) or an unknown brother is the father of Jesse Poore 1770-1860.




DNA SOURCES USED FOR DETERMINATION:  


Sources will be listed as Name (DNA Source) when presenting the DNA evidence.

 

·    Y-DNA matches are only passed down through male family members.

·    A haplogroup is a genetic population group consisting of people who share a common ancestor on either the paternal or maternal line.

 

 

Keven Poore

A direct descendant of Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850)

 

His line to Jeremiah Poer:

 

·    Jeremiah Poer 1754-1850 (Wife: Elizabeth Hester)

·    Jeremiah "Jerry" Poer Jr. 1802-1837

·    Jeremiah M Pore 1832-1880

·    Alfred Leroy Poore 1874-1956

·    John Walter Poore 1906-1958

·    Arthur Leroy Poore 1932-2001

·    Keven Poore (DNA Source)

 

  

Keith Dwayne Wilcox
A direct descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

 

His line to Jesse Poore:

 

·    Jesse Poore 1770-1860 (1st Wife: Unknown)

·    John Poore 1810-1879

·    Jesse Poore 1834-1866 / Barbara Ann Galloway 1842-1888

·    Jesse A. Wilcox 1865-1950 (Poore Y-DNA)

·    Willard E Wilcox 1892-1976 (Poore Y-DNA)
·    Carroll Edward Wilcox 1921–1990 (Poore Y-DNA)

·    Keith Dwayne Wilcox (Poore Y-DNA) (DNA Source)

 

  

Lee Poore
A direct descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

 

His line to Jesse Poore:

 

·    Jesse Poore 1770-1860 (1st Wife: Unknown)

·    Robert Poore 1797-1848

·    Isaac Poore 1829-1880

·    Isaac R Poore 1859-1928

·    Burnie Clinton Poore 1898-1955

·    Henry Willard Poore 1931-1999

·    Lee Poore (DNA Source)

 

 

Albert G. Poore
A direct descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

 

His line to Jesse Poore:

 

·    Jesse Poore 1770-1860 (1st Wife: Unknown)

·    Robert Poore 1797-1848

·    Isaac Poore 1829-1880

·    Robert Poore 1846-1932

·    Isaac Poore 1875-1963

·    Albert G. Poore (DNA Source)

 

 

Donnie George Poore
A direct descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

 

His line to Jesse Poore:

 

·    Jesse Poore 1770-1860 (2nd Wife: Mary Morris 1800-1870)

·    Mason Greenleaf Poore 1817-1872

·    Thomas Craig Poore 1851-1910

·    Martin Vanburen Poore 1876-1941

·    Joseph Von Poore 1907-1979

·    Donnie George Poore (DNA Source) 




THE DNA EVIDENCE:  


The Y-DNA testing was done through FamilyTreeDNA.com

 

 

Big Y-700 Tests

 

Jesse Poore's (1770-1860) family line descends from haplogroup I-Y43930 / FT202786

Jeremiah Poer's (1754-1850) family line also descends from haplogroup I-Y43930 / FT202786


  • Albert G. PooreLee Poore and Keith Dwayne Wilcox are descendants through Jesse Poore's first marriage.
  • Keven Poore is a descendant of Jeremiah Poer.

  

The DNA for Albert G. Poore and Lee Poore mutated slightly and created a new branch named I-FT176187. They are listed in one column together.

 

Keith Dwayne Wilcox and Keven Poore stayed with the same I-Y43930 branch and they are listed in one column together.





Only 5 do not match out of 686 Big Y STRs.

681 Big Y STRs out of 686 match between Keith Dwayne Wilcox and Keven Poore.

 

Only 5 do not match out of 686 Big Y STRs.

645 Big Y STRs out of 650 match between Albert G. Poore and Keven Poore.

 

Only 3 do not match out of 686 Big Y STRs.

653 Big Y STRs out of 656 match between Lee Poore and Keven Poore.




Y-DNA 111 Marker Tests

 

 

·    Keith Dwayne Wilcox (DNA Source) descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

·    Keven Poore (DNA Source), descendant of Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850)

 

Out of 111 Y-DNA markers, only 3 do not match. 108 DNA markers do match between Keith Dwayne Wilcox and Keven Poore.

 

Based on a Genetic Distance of 3 at the Y-111 test level, Keven Poore and Keith Dwayne Wilcox are estimated to share a common paternal line ancestor who was, with a 95% probability, born between 1600 and 1900 CE. The most likely year is rounded to 1750 CE. This date is an estimate based on genetic information only.

 

 

·    Lee Poore (DNA Source) descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

·    Keven Poore (DNA Source), descendant of Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850)

 

Out of 111 Y-DNA markers, only 4 do not match. 107 DNA markers do match between Albert G. Poore and Keven Poore.

 

 

·    Albert G. Poore (DNA Source) descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

·    Keven Poore (DNA Source), descendant of Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850)

 

Out of 111 Y-DNA markers, only 4 do not match. 107 DNA markers do match between Albert G. Poore and Keven Poore.

 

 

·    Donnie George Poore (DNA Source) descendant of Jesse Poore (1770-1860)

·    Keven Poore (DNA Source), descendant of Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850)

 

Out of 111 Y-DNA markers, only 5 do not match. 106 DNA markers do match between Donnie George Poore and Keven Poore.




CONCLUSION:    


The Y-DNA testing results solidify Jesse Poore’s connection to the Jeremiah Poer (1754-1850).

 

Jeremiah would have had Jesse Poore (1770-1860) when he was 16 years old with an unknown woman and in my opinion, he may have named him Jesse but didn't have much to do with him because he was so young and possibly unprepared to raise a son. Jesse more than likely grew up with his mother and her family. When Jeremiah married 20 years later and started having a family, he named two sons Jesse, possibly as recognition to his first son Jesse Poore (1770).


Later, once Jesse Poore (1770) was older, he more than likely re-connected with Jeremiah's family and his much younger brothers and sisters.

 

Eventually, this rekindled family connection led to Jeremiah Poer’s first son, Edward Lucious Poer to travel from North Carolina to Kingsport, Tennessee to marry Sarah Morris which is where her sister Mary Morris and her Husband Jesse Poore (1770-1860) lived.

 

Eventually, some of Jesse's children as well as Edward Lucious Poer and his family move to Indiana and Illinois which must have meant there was a strong connection between them.



There is more information and circumstantial evidence in our first report.

https://poorefamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2023/12/update-1-parents-of-jesse-poore-1770.html

 

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